By Tony Attwood
Joe Lievesley was born Staveley, (although which Staveley I am not sure) on 25 July 1883 and died on 18 October 1941. He played in goal for Poolsbrook United, Sheffield United, and Woolwich Arsenal
One of the first records we have of him playing was in an FA Cup first round replay on Thursday 16th January 1908 in which Swindon Town beat Sheffield United after extra time. What has kept the memory of this match alive is not that Swindon won, but that they were in the Southern League at the time, and apparently hadn’t won a game in the FA Cup proper for 20 years. The first match was drawn in Swindon and the replay was heralded as one of the David and Goliath matches.
He next crops up in history on the FA’s 1910 tour of South Africa. Here’s the list of players…
Manager: Charles Hughes
Players:
- Bob Benson (Sheffield United)
- Arthur Berry (Everton)
- Joe Bulcock (Crystal Palace)
- Dick Duckworth (Manchester United)
- Harold Fleming (Swindon Town)
- Vince Hayes (Manchester United)
- Billy Hibbert (Bury)
- George Holley (Sunderland)
- Joe Leeming (Brighton and Hove Albion)
- Joe Lievesley (Sheffield United)
- James Raine (Glossop)
- George Richards (Derby County)
- Ivan Sharpe (Glossop)
- Billy Silto (Swindon Town)
- Albert Sturgess (Sheffield United)
- George Wall (Manchester United)
- Billy Wedlock (Bristol City)
- Vivian Woodward (Chelsea)
- Gordon Wright (Hull City)
Although the list of games takes us away from Lievesley as such it is interesting in its own right, because of the regularity of the matches, and the fact that there must have been some transport problems at the time.
England played 23 and won 23
26/5/10 Cape Town Colonial born of Cape Town 1-7 England 28/5/10 Cape Town Western Province 0-13 England 1/6/10 Kimberley Griqualand West 0-2 England 4/6/10 Kimberley Griqualand West 1-7 England 8/6/10 Bloemfontein Bloemfontein 0-4 England 11/6/10 Johannesburg Johannesburg District 1-6 England (also reported vs The Reef) 13/6/10 Krugersdorp West Rand 1-3 England 15/6/10 Pretoria Pretoria District 1-4 England 18/6/10 Johannesburg Transvaal 0-1 England (also reported vs Johannesburg District) 20/6/10 Ladysmith Klip River District 3-13 England 22/6/10 Pietermaritzburg Pietermaritzburg 0-6 England 25/6/10 Durban Natal 2-6 England 29/6/10 Durban South Africa 0-3 England 2/7/10 East London Frontier 0-7 England 4/7/10 King William's Town Frontier 0-6 England 6/7/10 Port Elizabeth Port Elizabeth District 0-8 England 9/7/10 Port Elizabeth Eastern Province 0-10 England 12/7/10 Grahamstown Grahamstown District 0-9 England 16/7/10 Johannesburg Rand League 1-2 England (also reported at Bloemfontein, vs Orange River Colony) 20/7/10 Vogelfontein East Rand 0-5 England (also reported at Johannesburg) 23/7/10 Johannesburg South Africa 2-6 England 27/7/10 Cape Town Western Province 0-9 England 30/7/10 Cape Town South Africa 3-6 England
At Woolwich Arsenal and The Arsenal his career spanned just two seasons, cut off (as so many careers were) by the first world war.
He had come into the team as a replacement for McDonald (who finally left in November 1913) and made 75 appearances in goal.
And that’s about it. Obviously a man of repute and ability, but I regret I have nothing more on him.
The team for the final game was…
1: J Lievesley (this article)
2: Right back: J Shaw
3: R W Benson
4: Right Half: GM Grant
5: Centre half – P R Sands The first captain of The Arsenal at Highbury
6: A Graham
7: J Rutherford
8: J Flanagan
9: S J Stonley
10: D Slade
11: Outside Right: C H Lewis
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The Staveley that he was born in was the one near Chesterfield.
I think he only played in 3 games on the tour of South Africa:
29 June
23 July
30 July
He also played for the Football League v The Southern League on 11 April 1910 score: 2-2.
He retired from playing in 1916 due to an arm injury. His last game for Arsenal was the last game of the 1914-15 season.
Here’s a picture of him from the 1914/15 handbook.
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/goonerak/Arsenal/Handbooks/1914-15/19141521.jpg
Two of his sons played league football.
Leslie played 277 league games for Doncaster, Man Utd, Chesterfield, Torquay and Crystal Palace before his career was cut short by the second world war.
Harold managed just 1 league appearance for Doncaster in 1934/35.
OK Andy you are clearly on fire at the moment. Here’s another one.
I have been corresponding with one or two people at Arsenal about the celebrations of 125 years next season and the re-introduction of “Forward Arsenal” as a slogan. When was the first time this was used?
You’ve got me there Tony. The only time I’ve come across the two words together is Bernard Joy’s book of the same name.
Joe’s son Leslie was a coach for Torino in Italy. He died in tragic circumstances:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superga_air_disaster
joe lievesley was my grandad my father horace was also a very good footballer as was dennis lievesley for aldershot.harold lievesley died from tb at the age of 22.i have alot of memrobelia about their careers including things from grandads tour .
I can confirm that he was born in Staveley in Derbyshire though after he stopped playing he moved to Rossington near Doncaster. As well as footballing sons, Joe also had two footballing brothers, Wilf (my father) who played for Manchester United and Exeter and Ernest Frederick (Fred) who played for Manchester City and Rotherham.
Gillian Garnett,
Concerning the 1910 tour to South Africa,I am trying to find information concerning scorers and attendances for all 23 matches.
I would appreciate your help if you can assist me.
Also – if you have any match programmes/teamsheets you are prepared to part with then please get in touch.
Lewis/Gillian
I am the programme editor for Rossington Main and we have your relatives down as players that progressed. If you have any information that you could share with us that would be great. We have Joe, Dennis and Leslie all down as playing for Rossington Main but we have no dates or stats for any
Cheers
Pete